Its a video on Utube Judges For Justice featuring her case. 51min. After reading this forum and hearing the details of this case, Iowa sure seems a lot fairer in my eyes. Her alibi about going to the club, called Cowboys Nitelife, got fuzzy when investigators discovered she hadnt signed the guest book on that day. Just one example. Dont even think about arguing with me until they DNA test that hair and the broken fingernail found on her body; Ill just laugh at you. Of course, if he had info that only the perp would know Admission has long since been disregarded without corroborative evidence. Nope. Oh, and she was so obsessed with him that she started dating and found herself a boyfriend that was not only younger, but much more attractive than Andy? Ive followed and made a study of this case for more than twenty years and have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. Or the fact the one of those officers heard her make this statement at the time of her arrest and not the other. She has no means to reply or rebut this outrageous slurs and these forums are the only way I know where people may become aware of the wrongful conviction of innocent person and equally, those who happily believe all the adverse and damaging comments. If there was more talk about finding this .22 mm gun then that would solve all of this speculation. It is of course good and desirable that third parties press the case for innocence because it maximises the chance that guilty verdicts are correct (given that it is worse for the innocent to be found guilty than the reverse). Several instances of malpractice, along with revelations have emerged since her incarceration namely, failing to forensically examine significant items of evidence items which would have seriously compromised their case had they been examined and failing to advise Rorrers Defence of witnesses who were prepared to testify on her behalf. The only thing that has changed since this case is the ability of people to access and proclaim crackpot ideas, conspiracies, and all the rest. Today, Patricia Lynne Rorrer resides in State Correctional Institute at Muncy, a medium and maximum security facility that has the highest rate of cancer of all prisons in Pennsylvania, according to a story from northcentralpa.com. She will be in jail for the rest of her life and rightly so. Patricia, who moved from PA to North Carolina, made long distance calls from her home practically every day, except for the time period between December 11 and 16. Keep in mind that 34 hairs are in custody of the state police, so where are the other 4 hairs? Patricia Rorrer: An Update - Forensic Files Now Her diary certainly indicates some disturbed thinking. If that really is the case, the husbands alibi for a date months before becomes irrelevant. Andrew mentioned to police that his former live-in girlfriend Patricia Rorrer once managed a horse stable two miles from the bodies location and would have been familiar with the riding trails close to the murder scene. And Patricia did live in another state. Its totally irrelevant. Cops under pressure will lie to close a case. It was a really perfect day with cloudless sky and temperature at about 20 C. I expected to be riding the local transportation a lot since my wife is not. And when Patricia was taken into custody where they removed 39 hairs with root, and then all of a sudden after the FBI report say that the hair tested had NO ROOT ATTACHED, the hair tested had a root? Wrong Man Season 2 Release Date Confirmed (Exclusive) More likely it reflects a relative reluctance to execute females as well as the pendency of what will be the last episode of DNA investigation. Im trying to understand exactly your reasoning asking me staying away from this site because of my insulting remarks! Did Patricia have the dyed blond hair when they broke up in 1993? . Patricia also pointed out that when author Tammy Mal started her research and speaking to me, she was not an advocate at all but she reversed and ended up advocating for Patricias innocence. If I see anything that offers a differing opinion or is inaccurate, I think its entirely fair I should say my piece. Am I missing something? because theres money to be made from the commercials added into their show. His father confirmed his alibi that they were doing construction work together, putting an addition on the house of friends Tom and Kathy Holschwander, at the time of Joanns disappearance. She failed miserably to convince me, or anyone else who mattered, of her innocence. Rorrer has appealed her conviction several times and her supporters believe additional DNA. As for the murder weapon, police didnt find a .22 caliber pistol on Patricias property, but an ex-boyfriend claimed that she owned one and it would always jam after one shot. Unless theres a complicity between him and her, and the reason she didnt divulge it is because she hopes to put all the blame on him, when she was the one to murder and he was a planner. No other suspect has existed that would have a motive to kill Joann. February 29, 2020. He said she did own a firearm, with its serial numbers filed off. There is a term in law called balance of probabilities, which basically means that guilt is assigned when there is a preponderance of evidence that would lead a rational person to conclude that the person did it. Interesting thought about the alibi timing. I would suggest you take the time to read the book or, at least watch the documentaries which STICK TO THE FACTS, and then comment. And last but not least, the fact that Michael McIntyre comes across as mentally unstable. Youll have to make do with what you see here. Unbloody vehicle. True, Andrew would have no way to acquire and plant Patricias blond hair there because it wasnt that color when she knew him. I guess the investigators in Pennsylvania managed a quick resolve to a huge case that had a nations eyes scrutinizing their every move! Suzanne Pearson fabricated quotes from Patricia including her claim that Patricia said, Im going to the electric chair upon her arrest because a conviction would boost Pearsons career. Patty was soooo obsessed with Andy that she moved away to North Carolina some 5 years before this happened, right? Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. You, however seem to have no problem with these hurtful and damaging comments aimed at Rorrer. Patricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. This woman was motivated by an obsession with a man who no longer wanted her. Tiffany, it is amazing you have all the answers to these murders! Yet they insisted in the trial that the call came in on the 13th. Omg so well put! The victims vanished on December 15. Yeah, no. I dont think she was ever scared until we put the cuffs on her.. Once you create your profile, you will be able to: Someone had shot Joann in the face with a .22-caliber pistol, then beaten her about the head hitting her 19 times in all with a blunt object. She had a suitcase packed, Devine said. However, my curiosity is piqued as to why Andrews mother didnt report the missing daughter in law, Joanne and her own grandson Alex! On a secret recording, Patricia asked Jarrett to vouch for her attendance or she might go to the electric char. On January 11, 2021, Just saying. They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. Sorry not sorry. You people are fighting a losing cause! It might have said no root but could have been wrong. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Wow. Your email address will not be published. OK my GUESS is Patricia did do it! Im quite happy to accept that ANYONE who makes a TV documentary makes it for money. Just consider all your nasty posts about others opinions and learn to attack the argument, not the arguer with insults. As for him, yes, it looks like the first suspect, but if he had alibis, quite hard to accuse of actually doing it, and I understand it was a pretty solid one. In summer, after thawing, there will be small animals eating the body and even turkey vultures, but not so much in the winter. Pat will spend the rest of her natural life in prison where people like her belong. Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. It showed her usually all-brown hair haphazardly highlighted blond. The police considered the possibility that Joann ran away, a theory disputed by her family. There is so much in your comment with which I can take issue, but Ill try to keep to the salient points. Lieutenant Christopher Coble and Sergeant Suzanne Pearson would later testify that Patricia cried and apologized to 18-month-old Nicole, telling the baby, Im sorry for doing this to you and lamenting to the officers that she would never see little Nicole again. Patricia L. Rorrer was taken into custody from the Linwood home she shared with her boyfriend and 1-year-old daughter on June 24, 1997. Police slowly built a case against Patricia. And dance instructor William Jarrett couldnt remember whether she attended his dance class at the club the night of Joanns disappearance. While most of the documentaries come out as reinforcing her guilt, albeit most of them giving differing accounts of the speculation which was presented at her trial, some going even further by showing scenes that were offered as theories at her trial, as FACT. Joanne wouldnt have fought back as she was shot therefore almost immediately incapacitating her and was holding her son. Perhaps that would lessen your fright. Jealousy was the motive. Or the ME and the entomologist that explained how impossible it would be for that baby and mother to be out there for four months, deceased at that, and still be as intact as they were, and the fact that the baby was double the size of a three month old child. That documentary points out that, despite the bodies of the two victims supposedly being exposed for several months, their condition remained relatively undisturbed by weather or animal activity. Especially mice! Shes extremely, extremely happy with the baby. It was Patricias hair no question. One more thing acquire ALL the facts about this case If you can read. She had money put aside. Nope. If not, how could Andrew have obtained samples of Patricias hair if they apparently didnt meet up in person after Andrews marriage? Why bother with this site, which isnt for professional criminalists/forensic scientists, if youre going to get so tetchy and rude? Her jealousy and rage because Joann told her to not contact her husband set her off. You started slinging insults, then got insulted when slung back. The fat cow is guilty as hell and I hope she continues to have the shit kicked out of her in prison every day of her useless life. I have worked for Interpol for years as a gun analyst, usually women who commit such crimes against their exes wife or mistress, lover etc are pushed from behind by a man and promises and lies. I didnt read anything in this article that convinced me I didnt like that the lab had a bad rep and I do agree the police lie and frame people sometimes so I cant say 100% she did it or not. Shes attracted the help of writer Tammy Mal (full name Tammy Malinowski OReilly), author of Convenient Suspect, a book about the case. Meticulous primping. I wonder, did they ever perform a DNA test on the baby, to verify paternity? Interesting points thanks for writing in (and, yikes, those poor deer that starve to death). So, if you feel you have to be critical of me, you should also bear in mind those hate-mongers and perhaps have a word with them too. I have not SEEN this report that says no root found is there a picture of it online somewhere? She definitely did it. The Facts Case Type: Crime For this week, I looked into the defenders reasoning as well as Patricias whereabouts today. A documentary on Youtube Judges for Justice shows a clear case of evidence tampering with regard to the hair. It was winter which are cold in PA and would slow down decomposition and minimize insect activity although you are correct about the rodentswhy were there none? which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory.. We should be skeptical of those, like you, who suggest its obvious a jury got it wrong that you know better than 12 people presented with the evidence. The victims vanished on December 15. And, why is it reasonable to believe lay people accept the jury verdict? Plus, he had only a minimal life insurance policy on Joann and he passed polygraphs, according to The FBI Files: Family Secrets. Whether or not one believes said person has a motive, did investigators have an actual factual case or not? Watch Wrong Man Season 2: Stream Full Episodes on STARZ Joanns gun and beating wounds were obvious, but the baby died a less violent (but just as horrible) death with no clear signs. Most of your comment absolutely astonishes me. And NOBODY saw her at all? No show. Re Sells, the problem viz some serial killers is in exaggerating the number as a badge of honour. As for the words exchanged on the call between the two big-haired women, Joann told Andrew that Patricia had used profanity; Patricia said it was the other way around. The state police dropped him as a suspect. Do you realize that Patricia was only found and arrested more than six months after the murder? BROADCASTING SPECULATIVE SCENES, SUCH AS MENTIONED ABOVE, CAN LEAVE A VERY INDELIBLE MEMORY ON THOSE WHO ARE HAPPY TO REMAIN GULLIBLE. She killed Joann, had a fair and impartial trial, so its time to get over it. Patricia Rorrer was convicted in 1998 of murdering a young mother named Joann Katrinak as well as her 15-week old infant son. Having read that and your most recent comment above, its clearly obvious youre a person of high educational standing and legal knowledge, which I fully respect. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory. I attack only those whove considered themselves not only judges on this case, but go on to vent their spleen aimed at a person who in my opinion is innocent of this crime, based on all Ive read and watched without fear of retaliation If they so freely attack someone in the most vicious way, why should they be off limits? And your attempt to draw a distinction between a fact and an opinion! Sad discovery. False. The fact that previous boyfriends noted her obsession with Andrew is very, very telling. Im sorry Sally, I know you want someone to blame for the death of your daughter and grandson, but the person who actually killed her is serving a life sentence in another facility in Pennsylvania. Then you claim this is an opinion. Check out ALL the facts if you feel the need to comment. And James Pfeiffer and Jim Burke have remained on her side. Patricia has been wrongfully convicted of murdering Joann and Alex Katrinak in 1994. Which Patricia did not, so who is the real killer? Patricia Rorrer: Under the Microscope. I comment on these forums because they are the only places offering the opportunity to, hopefully, bring awareness to those whore unfamiliar with this case and her unfair plight. I just watched Reasonable Dont on this case. Narcissistic and violent tendencies are very common. You, however, consider your ill-informed opinion superior to them not only that, you then go to great lengths to belittle them. Hair we go. And because some of Patricias advocates have suggested Andrew Katrinak had a motive for murder, I checked into whether he had a life insurance payout to gain upon Joanns demise. And about the only thing from your comment with which I can agree, is you saying thats not proof theyre right in reference to their verdict. WoW! Andy passed not one but two polygraph tests and had a solid alibi. As for the idiots who didnt think Ms. Rorrer guilty of anything more sordid than having zero taste, the simple fact(s) are that: 1) what they claim about such testing (as was done to the hair) wasexcuse me, IS wrong both due to the follow-up AFTER the mDNA test results were made only proved more concretely that Ms. Rorrer WAS the person the hair came from, 2) the inanity about thinking Andy had something to do with it (the simple fact that ALL investigations START by checking the closest, most immediate relative, i.e, a spouse), was after his being thoroughly vouched, to NOT be in ANY way involved, 3) since this case, forensic science has only improved by huge leaps, and that no one including the courts or the Innocence Project will get involved should make it VERY clear, this case is CLOSED. Prime Video: Wrong Man - Season 2 Go watch the Reasonable Doubt episode from last night Patricia did it. They were telling the truth and revealing the type of person she was, a person that definitely would kill out of jealousy and revenge. Any true crime fan should know the crazy history of these magic boxes. Early in the investigation, the hairs found in the car were sent (in glass slides) to several laboratories including the FBIs. She killed a mother and child and now has all of you eating out of the palm of her hand about how mistreated she has been. Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports, 7 Unnerving Facts About the Lindberghs and the Kidnapping, The Lindbergh Kidnapping: Forensic Files Lost Episode, Dawn Fehring: A Missionary Dies Too Young, Daniel and Cynthia McDonnell: Good Cop, Bad Wife. The person who killed Joann is currently serving a life sentence because 10 months after Joann and Alex died, he killed another woman (who bore a striking resemblance to Joann) and her baby.
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